SPOILERS: Idris Mission Strategies
- Thread starter Wallace Lord of Owls
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We can go the economic route and use the ES, thus saving money and defeating the rival pirates.
First Capital Ship is already in the game ..... The 890J so in the case they let Idris in it's not the first.. just saying
And TEST SQUADRON already have a plan....
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Now here's a thought of the so called idris....
Might it be they are just testing stuff and some info of that is just left in the PTU build... and that there is no idris mission coming any time soon...
See....
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Might it be they are just testing stuff and some info of that is just left in the PTU build... and that there is no idris mission coming any time soon...
See....
CHEERS!
I'll try to get to the 2nd last mission today to see what the last mission saids. Not likely they would give you just 6 of the missions and leave the last one of the chain out.
One hammerhead with full Distortion Scattergun loadout getting close enough can get 238008 dps on the Idris, dropping the shields in 10 seconds.
It can then do 123360 dmg with missiles.
Now, few options here:
Option A) Those missiles are targeted at manned turrets or the hangar doors. All but one turret gunner and the pilot will switch to heavy combat gear and EVA to the idris, inserting from the broken bit and then just pewpewpew indoors until nothing moves. (The pilot and the turret gunner will keep the idris disabled while this is going on.)
Party size: 7 TESTies
Option B) 5 eclipses show up and unload 15 seeker IX torpedos on the Idris, decimating what's left of the hull.
Party size: 12 TESTies
And it'll take around 10 seconds
Option C) Barrage it with Auroras until nothing remains.
Party Size: One TEST Squardon.
I think that currently the distortion weapons don't actually shut down the ship, just damage shields, so I think boarding is off the table. However, that makes me wonder if in the future fully distortion hammerheads could be used to fully disable enemy capital ships with raw distortion damage for them to be boarded and taken intact would become a go to strategy for capturing enemy caps.
Well, that just means you need to target the engines as well. 100k missile dmg is a lot to go around.
or maybe you can blow up the bridge, that would be a good insertion point AND the ship isn't going to run around without a helm.
I mean in the future yeah that'll probably work, but currently even if you destroy the engines you can't destroy the maneuvering thrusters, and as long as the ship has those active you really can't board it
It was a nightmare grinding the rep out with the servers so unstable. I did finally finish and got the first mission. During the mission I got a crash and well no way to get the quest back lol.
Here is the first of 6 missions.
Here is the first of 6 missions.
If you're not aware, distortion weapons current do about 10% of their intended damage iirc. Haven't tested them in 3.8 yet.
Edit: They are doing about 30% of their intended damage in the PU. Seems like they do almost their full damage in AC.
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This is my hope aswell!Lol, unless there's some other surprises for 3.8.
Going after an Idris will be a multi ship strategy.
hammerheads going after shields is good, with the strategy being you want to take down at least one shield face. Two hammerheads are better than one as to split the attention of the Idris and it’s fighter escort, with the goal being to keep those shields down and maybe take out a few point defense turrets. Three hammerheads would be better.
then have retaliators one through four launch their payloads (eclipses one through eight work as well)
Bring in the reclaimers
hammerheads going after shields is good, with the strategy being you want to take down at least one shield face. Two hammerheads are better than one as to split the attention of the Idris and it’s fighter escort, with the goal being to keep those shields down and maybe take out a few point defense turrets. Three hammerheads would be better.
then have retaliators one through four launch their payloads (eclipses one through eight work as well)
Bring in the reclaimers
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Auroras. The answer is always auroras!
Put up a screen of auroras (20 will do) and have a prospector with a mining laser behind. When close enough, just mine it for 3 seconds and boom.
In case they fixed the mining laser of death, have a bunch of torpedo boats behind the screen and let em rip. It should be easy, with a couple of rounds like this, we would only require like 200+ auroras or thereabouts.
Does mission/rep progression still not carry over between sessions?
Put up a screen of auroras (20 will do) and have a prospector with a mining laser behind. When close enough, just mine it for 3 seconds and boom.
In case they fixed the mining laser of death, have a bunch of torpedo boats behind the screen and let em rip. It should be easy, with a couple of rounds like this, we would only require like 200+ auroras or thereabouts.
Does mission/rep progression still not carry over between sessions?
At 6:51 he is making the assumption that Chimalli shields has 21876 / 4 hp per shield face.
However, afaik Chimalli has 21876 hp per shield face.
43752/2556dps would be 17 seconds.
Think the most likely explanation is that the Chimalli has a very short, but not nonexistent, recharge delay after being damaged.
Anyhow, I'm actually glad if a hammerhead can't take down the shields on Idris in 10 seconds, tho I hope it'd take longer still.
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| 1 | local name | default_loadouts | size | grade | mass (kg) | hp | dist dmg | radius (m) | radius min (m) | radius phys (m) | radius phys min (m) | charge time (s) | unleash time (s) | cooldown time (dst) | power base (pwr/s) | power draw (pwr/s) | power overpower performance | power overclock performance | power overclock min | power overclock max | power up time (s) | em ratio (em/pwr) | em decay rate | temp min | temp max | temp overheat | temp recovery | temp cooling start | temp misfire min | temp misfire max | overpower heat | cooling rate | recovery time (s) | overclock threshold min | overclock threshold max | thermal conductivity | thermal energy draw | thermal energy base | surface area | specific heat capacity | thermal mass | temp ratio IR | dmg resist phys | dmg resist nrg | dmg resist dst | dmg resist heat | dmg resist bio | wear lifetime (hours) | wear initial ratio | |
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| 2 | TMBL_EMP_Device_S1 | TMBL_Cyclone_AA | 1 | 1 | 10 | 150 | 1000 | 400 | 150 | 250 | 150 | 12.00 | 0.75 | 6.00 | 250.00 | 500.000 | 0 | 0.200 | 0.300 | 0.500 | 5.000 | 2.000 | 0.150 | 0.000 | 700 | 650 | 550 | 300.00 | 370.00 | 600 | 0 | 58 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 6000 | 5556 | 0 | 1 | 200 | 6 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1440 | 0 | ||
| 3 | ANVL_Hawk_EMP_Device_S2 | ANVL_Hawk, ANVL_Hawk_PU_AI_QIG | 2 | 1 | 200 | 150 | 1800 | 750 | 250 | 400 | 250 | 12.00 | 0.75 | 12.00 | 250.00 | 750.000 | 0 | 0.200 | 0.300 | 0.500 | 5.000 | 2.000 | 0.150 | 0.000 | 700 | 650 | 550 | 300.00 | 370.00 | 600 | 0 | 64 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 40000 | 37333 | 0 | 1 | 1200 | 6 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1440 | 0 | ||
| 4 | MXOX_EMP_Device_S2 | AEGS_Sabre_Raven | 2 | 1 | 200 | 150 | 1800 | 750 | 250 | 400 | 250 | 12.00 | 0.75 | 12.00 | 250.00 | 750.000 | 0 | 0.200 | 0.300 | 0.500 | 5.000 | 2.000 | 0.150 | 0.000 | 700 | 650 | 550.000 | 300.00 | 370.00 | 600 | 0 | 64 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 40000 | 37333 | 0 | 1 | 1200 | 6 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1440 | 0 | ||
| 5 | AEGS_EMP_Device_S4 | AEGS_Avenger_Warlock | 4 | 1 | 4000 | 150 | 3800 | 1200 | 400 | 1000 | 250 | 12.00 | 1.50 | 25.00 | 500.00 | 750.000 | 0 | 0.200 | 0.300 | 0.500 | 5.000 | 2.000 | 0.150 | 0.000 | 700 | 650 | 550.000 | 300.00 | 370.00 | 600 | 0 | 58 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 120000 | 111111 | 0 | 1 | 4000 | 6 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1440 | 0 | ||
| 6 | REP-VS EMP Generator | AEGS_Vanguard_Sentinel | 4 | 1 | 4000 | 150 | 6000 | 2200 | 600 | 1200 | 250 | 20.00 | 1.50 | 40.00 | 800.00 | 2000.000 | 0 | 0.200 | 0.300 | 0.500 | 8.000 | 2.000 | 0.150 | 0.000 | 700 | 650 | 550.000 | 300.00 | 370.00 | 600 | 0 | 58 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 120000 | 111111 | 0 | 1 | 4000 | 6 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1440 | 0 |
Okay so here above is the best 3.7 data I could find. In addition, I saw a claim that the Sentinel EMP does 3,600 damage to shields, but I think the point is you want to get your EMP inside the shields so that damage goes to the computer.
It appears to me the Raven is the best choice since it is the smallest, fastest, hardest to hit, and can actually pulse twice every 12 seconds. Since it is small, it is a good choice for flying inside the Idris hangar bay, and using something like ballistic scatterguns to decimate any defenders there.
If a Raven can gain entrance to the hangar bay, knock out both the Idris computers and keep her down, and repulse any hangar assault with her main weapons, then I recommend Hoplites as the fastest and safest way to land troops all around the hull.
You definitely want a misdirection tactic before all this, but I think this is doable, albeit based upon almost no intel what entry into a ship's hangar is really like.
Don't forget the Map only shows known jump points. Chris as said that there will be undocumented as well as temporary created jump points between systems for us to find.
As funny as it is to imagine it will not be a thing with server meshing. Think of it as instances within WoW each will have its own players and NPC's and they don't interact across instances. Instances will only be created when the player population within a given area gets to be too high for a single server to handle and the area can no longer be shrunk. Say a Test party at Port Olisar and the server max player load is 100. So all 1000 of us show up which means 10 instances of Port Olisar are spawned. While it sucks that we can't all interact with each other its the limitations of the game code and physical hardware.
Or I ram my Sentinel in there for reasons (she'll go, haha) and start firing. I mean, why use sense when we can TEST!
In all honesty I love your plan. But I still wanna ram a Sentinel into an Idris hangar.