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RSI Galaxy Screenshots and speculation
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Shadow Reaper
Space Marshal
There are a lot of us waiting on the Sons of Orion (SoO) storyline, where we can earn big pesos killing Vanduul cap ships. IMHO, the best case for this is not the Idris, but the Polaris with several (9?) scout ships like the Arrow in its hanger. If we suppose 9 Arrow scouts, used to locate and light up Vanduul cap ship targets from 30 km away from the Polaris, then the optimal Polaris crew is up to about 20 positions, which for daily service probably needs close to 25 players. So the entry bar is pretty high but nothing like crewing an Idris.
By contrast, if you wanted to fly a Lib with 3 Eclipse, 12 Arrows and a MIS, you're looking at 17 positions and probably 20 players. That's not a small step down and still will hopefully yield nice Void Bomber kills. It may become common for SoO Captains to start with the Lib and move to the Polaris as their groups grow.
In thinking about the SoO demands, keep in mind that Vanduul Void Bombers are the smallest of the Vanduul cap ships, similar to the Polaris, but with 3 S10 guns rather than torps. Void Bombers typically fly in pairs, so don't underestimate the demands necessary to offing them. Certainly you won't be able to do this with a single Eclipse.
By contrast, if you wanted to fly a Lib with 3 Eclipse, 12 Arrows and a MIS, you're looking at 17 positions and probably 20 players. That's not a small step down and still will hopefully yield nice Void Bomber kills. It may become common for SoO Captains to start with the Lib and move to the Polaris as their groups grow.
In thinking about the SoO demands, keep in mind that Vanduul Void Bombers are the smallest of the Vanduul cap ships, similar to the Polaris, but with 3 S10 guns rather than torps. Void Bombers typically fly in pairs, so don't underestimate the demands necessary to offing them. Certainly you won't be able to do this with a single Eclipse.
Holy crap I was spot on!
Richard Bong
Space Marshal
The Liberator isn't a base, it is a transport ship. While we don't know the final dimensions, those 400 SCU in the Liberator, should be able to haul Torps.
The Starfarer, in its current configuration appears to have a cargo hold that can haul torps as well.
Excellent. Exactly what I want to hear. Now the long wait to fly the thing.
one other thing...I am shocked that this vehicle is 350 while the endeavor remains at 350. It would seem to me that the endeavor is a bigger more useful version of this ship and it's modules are cheaper and the ship itself is cheaper. Makes me wonder why the endeavor was not increased in price
Seems the Galaxy has more offence capabilities. Plus i don't think many wish to pilot a space train.
Dirtbag_Leader
Grand Admiral
Hence why my upgrade chain goes Cat -> Endo -> Galaxy, with a Cat -> Galaxy in reserve; I got options bitches! :D
What I really wonder though, is with the Galaxy w/Medbay module now on the table, where does that leave the poor Apollos?!?
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not only that, but the apollo can only have a total of two of each of the following. 3 T3, 2 T2, or 1 T1. So mix and match to 1 T1 and 2 T2, or 1 T1 and 3 T3, or 6 T3, etc. The med bay for this one will have 3 T3, 2 T2, and 1 T1 bed. So I really see this as a better ship for reviving than most other ships out there, with the possible exception of the Endeavor.
The base Endeavor is still at $350 because it's had no development since concept. The most positive thing they have said about it in any format is that it needs re-concepting to the metrics that exist in game now.
John Crewe's face is meme-worthy when the Endeavor is brought up; but by the time they get to actually building it most of the required game systems should already be working.
I would say expect the price to go up considerably at launch.. but given that launch is supposed to happen after the game goes Live, I have no idea if there will even be cash ship sales at that point (betting on yes).
Endeavor Master Set is probably the longest gamble you can take in this game, even though a few others are more expensive.
Honestly, Kraken Privateer is the biggest risk IMO. Between the market places, landing areas, hangars, repairs, moving cargo, modular stores, AI requirements, etc., I see just as many moving parts needed for the Privateer as the Endeavor will need and 2x the cost. Sorry, but I think that the Endeavor master class is only the second riskiest ship…
I wouldn't read too much into that - All concept ships have that wording at release.
For example, here's the C1 from earlier in the year:
Taken from disclaimer at the bottom of https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/18817-Crusader-C1-Spirit
Fair, in terms of risk for money can't disagree. I was more specifically referring to the long time since concept plus the long time till expected arrival.
From the perspective of game engine mechanics though, I'm still going to hold that the Endeavor has the most programming required.
Medical applies across the game so nothing specific needed there; Tier 1 bed UI and related things like cybernetics will be shared with the Galaxy and Apollo.
Overclocking components should be straightforward if touchy crafting, with a side of component gathering difficulty.
The Radiotelescope will probably be the apex of whatever the Long Range Scanning system turns out to be. I've heard conversation by the designers, but not an actual design.
Science though.. the science gameplay will need a lot of depth to be worth the cost of the ship.
And these last two will require Datarunning to be a thing.
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Nice. I know some folks who wished they bought a Hull E before it went limited, or Pioneer at concept.
now, for those wondering why they should get the Galaxy over the Odyssey.
1) cargo is double the Odyssey’s capability with the cargo module
2) med bay has 1xT1, 2xT2, and 3xT3. This is significantly more than the single 1xT2 med bed the Odyssey has
3) the refining module can (should) be able to refine mostmined raw materials, not just quantanium.
So the Galaxy can do everything the Odyssey can do, but better. But the Odyssey can do it all at the same time.
now, for those wondering why they should get the Galaxy over the Odyssey.
1) cargo is double the Odyssey’s capability with the cargo module
2) med bay has 1xT1, 2xT2, and 3xT3. This is significantly more than the single 1xT2 med bed the Odyssey has
3) the refining module can (should) be able to refine mostmined raw materials, not just quantanium.
So the Galaxy can do everything the Odyssey can do, but better. But the Odyssey can do it all at the same time.
Richard Bong
Space Marshal
Given what they've told us about intended direction for space combat, the Galaxy just doesn't feel like it is armed correctly.
It's 3 turrets with 2 size 5's each means the intended weapon use is to strike large ships, but the ship clearly isn't designed for combat.
To defend the ship against fighters and ordinance it needs size 4 weapons.
I also see the Galaxy as more a competitor for the Caterpillar and Retaliator than most ships we currently know about.
It's 3 turrets with 2 size 5's each means the intended weapon use is to strike large ships, but the ship clearly isn't designed for combat.
To defend the ship against fighters and ordinance it needs size 4 weapons.
I also see the Galaxy as more a competitor for the Caterpillar and Retaliator than most ships we currently know about.
Plenty of time to change some aspects of the ship. They will take on board what the players are saying about it and it will be changed before it goes into production. But you make valid points
Richard Bong
Space Marshal
I've never seen them downsize a gun. Upsize, lots, but not downsize.
Agreed.. can't think of any time they've downsized. The memory claims there is one but won't give up the details lol. And as you point out, the Size 5's and up are worthless against smaller ships, especially fighters. The Odyssey shares the same problem with it's weapon configuration.
Yogi has stated in the not-to-distant past that weapons and components will get a much broader spread of characteristics again. The homogenization had the purpose of enabling the Vehicle Experience Team to establish a baseline, but it definitely flattened whatever depth of play had existed before. They have achieved that goal now, so going forward we should see and hear about this being spread out again.
For some of these larger ships to survive, the size 5's are going to need help. Master Modes provides some of that, by capping the speed which small ships can avoid incoming fire. Personally I don't think that will be enough; there will need to be changes to projectile speeds to bring in some balance.
Richard Bong
Space Marshal
But they've also stated that weapons and sizes have specific purposes and the differentiation will be based on role. And the Anti-Fighter/Anti-Ordinance role has been defined as size 4 and under.