Under 18 U.S.C. 922(g), someone that has been dishonorably discharged via a Court Martial is the same as a felony conviction, which means that cannot legally purchase or own a firearm.
Extremely concerning.
"Fully Semi-Automatic"
But TEST is the only place I've actually been part of a civilized type discussion about this. Facebook is just a bunch of useless bloviating. I've learned a bunch from all the smart people here!
A person is considered a felon if they have been convicted of a crime, either violent or non-violent, that is punishable by a prison term of more than one year.
No clue it seems that Kelley was leaving the church prior to being shot by an armed resident. So in fact shooting Kelley if true did nothing to stop the initial shooting but might have prevented him from going to other targets.
Shouldn't this be applied to both sides of the discussion, not just one, or not used at all?
I am saying that indeed a truck driven through the church could have killed and injured more, a bomb at the church could have done huge amounts of damage and death. While there seems to be more frequent use of guns for killing the largest cause of death at a single insistent has been bombs and airplanes.
If the problem is with the person and not with the gun .. make it harder for people like that to get guns. Not more easy:
Or, perhaps a register of owners where you are not allowed to sell your gun to another person until they'd been vetted. That'd work really well. Especially if the penalty for selling a gun to someone who then commits an atrocity with it is the death sentence for aiding an act of atrocity. Suddenly the mentally unhealthy will find it very hard to buy a gun in a private sale as no one will be willing to be put to death by the state for helping such an event to happen. The last victim of the killer would be the person they bought the gun off.
And that is my point. If easy access to guns is a good thing because they stopped him from killing more people, would having no access to any guns have stopped him from killing anyone in the first place?
Then kindly entertain my Kinder question - I have repeated it enough times and it really is the key to my queries. Why are the American People trusted with guns when they cannot even be trusted with candy? Where are the Pro Candy videos telling people they are stupid if they can't recognise a hollow chocolate egg and one with a toy inside it?
Then why did he not use a truck?
You can own a gun and have to make the choice of wounding or shooting to kill, at which point the law would probably recognise and back up your choice no matter which you chose even if that choice was to bury 3 slugs in him when one would have done - and still you cannot own a Kinder Egg without breaking the law.
Despite what much of the media and Democrat Politicians claim, what you suggested are already laws. So whenever Law Enforcement determines who he got the firearm from, that person will also be investigated then most likely brought up on multiple chargers.
The Kinder Egg is one of those things that many in the States find quite baffling, but since the FDA is a part of the non-elected government there isn't much we can do about it.
Good to know, and a register of owners who won't be able to sell without having the sale vetted by the authorities first? Or is it shoot first ask questions later?
"...there isn't much we can do about it." Isn't that what everyone has been telling me the Second Amendment is for?
I don't shoot to wound, I shoot to stop the threat. There is no such thing as 'shoot to wound' because the you aim for largest part of the body, center mass, which also has a lot of critical organs. If you shoot to wound you are trying to pick out a non-vital thing like hand or shoulder. That shit only works in the movies, RL odds are you are going to miss and hit something/someone behind them.
Carrying a gun takes with a great deal of responsibility and while this could help reduce the number of casualties inflected in these cases it can also lead as @Ezz pointed out to higher body counts for fatal mistakes in the heat of the moment. For me it also goes against the concept of personal choice and responsibility.
Its hard to say, it could have caused him to find another instrument to care out his plans or it could have prevented the killing in the first place. But for the most part these events have the perpetrator planning out the attack days if not weeks in advance which shows they simply settled on the most readily available weapon for them. It also points out to the fact that those in their life would have been the best way to prevent this from happening. And while I agree that having no access to any guns world wild would have prevented mass shootings I do not see any way to guarantee that all guns are destroyed. The final question is what purpose would it serve? Would it prevent people from killing each other and would it prevent mass casualties? In all frankness taking away guns does nothing to stop the tragic events from happening all it does is close one vector when in truth we as a society should be looking into why they feel so much pain and disconnection that they feel the only way forward is to cause so much pain and what can we as a society do to help them. For the best place to prevent this from happening is not with banning guns or trying to litigate it with laws and procedures that never work but with involvement with in his circle of family, friends, neighbors and acquaintances.
Honestly from my knowledge few people know what an Kinder egg is let alone that its banned. The second part is it really delicious or just novel regional item that has cultural relevance? As baffling as it is the kinder egg is not the only wacky law on the books there are many a website dedicated to laws that seemed like a good idea at the time but need to be struck out.
This is one of those things that is far more complicated than the media and politicians across the spectrum would have us believe.
It is completely understandable and normal to be upset when things like this happen, everybody SHOULD be incensed whenever anything like this happens anywhere in the world.
