Polaris $750

[Gearen]

Is it out?

 

[Shadow Reaper]

Do you mean S5 Turrets = 1 Turret with S5 Weapons or how exactly do you define it?

S5 manned turrets are what is on the Idris. IIUC, they allow a pair of S4 weapons, such as the Omni XII, or a single S5 weapon such as the Behring M7A. If you can put a pair of the big Omni's on each of four mounts, this thing will need an entire wing of Vanguard to take and board which would require probably 40% more players than the Polaris. Comparing numbers of players in a conflict is a good way to gauge combat effectiveness. If like a StarG it can be taken with just three Vanguard, it would not be a useful ship, IMHO; since it will probably require a crew of 7 or so to be effective.

 

[Huegpaynis]

I can see how someone might want to set up Rentaship business online it takes all sorts but if that sort of thing interests you then surely getting real bucks back i.e. in a real business not in game would seem you know just better.

Hertz Rent-a-Ship. We'll pick you up!

 

[Montoya]

I assume this sale will be ongoing all week right?

 

[Huegpaynis]

That's the assumption.

 

[Speedkills]

If I had $750 in ships, I would melt them all, buy the Polaris, melt that and then buy back what I had. This way I always have the option of getting a vette with LTI.

 

[Shadow Reaper]

Hertz Rent-a-Ship. We'll pick you up!

That's Enterprise. They actually trademarked the expression so no one else can use it, despite they'll pick you up.

 

[I_MIKE_I]

I assume this sale will be ongoing all week right?

It's fair to assume, but I wouldn't be counting on it. After all, it's the most expensive non-limited Ship we've seen so far.

It's not single use. It is the ship meant to dominate every other ship in the game except the larger warships. It has lots of uses. Corvettes have always been the ship of choice for pirates and governments doing anti-smuggling, mine laying, anti-submarine work, etc. As said, for the modern take, see the USS Independence class. They have lots of uses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence-class_littoral_combat_ship

I think you're reading WAY too much into real references... CIG's classifications have next to nothing to do with reality.

S5 manned turrets are what is on the Idris. IIUC, they allow a pair of S4 weapons, such as the Omni XII, or a single S5 weapon such as the Behring M7A. If you can put a pair of the big Omni's on each of four mounts, this thing will need an entire wing of Vanguard to take and board which would require probably 40% more players than the Polaris. Comparing numbers of players in a conflict is a good way to gauge combat effectiveness. If like a StarG it can be taken with just three Vanguard, it would not be a useful ship, IMHO; since it will probably require a crew of 7 or so to be effective.

I might be off somewhat, but... S4 Weapons would be smaller than I'd have expected. But then again, I guess it would look weird to have plenty large turrets on a 110-120m Ship.

 

[Huegpaynis]

That's Enterprise. They actually trademarked the expression so no one else can use it, despite they'll pick you up.

Good catch, I was just winging it.

 

[The Chaos Pope]

My back of the napkin math tells me I have over $600 in ships if I omit the base package, M50 and 890Jump. I'll want to read over the specs first, but making this change would mean that half of my fleet would now be multicrew.

I think I'll need to look over the specs to make a final decision. If this is another quantity limited capitol ship, I'll probably end up passing. I can probably scrape up cash for the rest if I decided to pull the trigger.

 

[Huegpaynis]

It's not quantity limited.

 

[Gearen]

Is it out now?

 

[Black Sunder]

So how many people will regret their decision when they realize how many crew members it is likely to need?

 

[Huegpaynis]

Not too many, a lot of us are waiting until the reveal before we decide.

 

[I_MIKE_I]

So how many people will regret their decision when they realize how many crew members it is likely to need?

I think most will be quite happy to see a higher number of crew (as that would most likely go with Turrets etc.).

The main source of disappointment could be weaker-than-expected weaponry.

 

[marcsand2]

I stick with my singel/dual seater fleet

If I had $750 in ships, I would melt them all, buy the Polaris, melt that and then buy back what I had. This way I always have the option of getting a vette with LTI.

You can only buy back a ship with store credits one time every 3 months. (unless you are a concierge???)

 

[Huegpaynis]

You can do it. You just have to be patient.

 

[Shadow Reaper]

So how many people will regret their decision when they realize how many crew members it is likely to need?

You do well to point out what many people ignore when they buy large multi-crew ships. Even boats like the StarG need sufficient crew or they are just flying targets.

The Redeemer requires 5 and the Idris 10, so it is a fair bet the Polaris will need about 7. I think you have much better odds of pulling together a tight team of 10 or so players 7 of which meet on any given night, than trying to man an Idris, so if what you're looking for is a combat ship that a tight group can fly daily, this may be the perfect size.

By way of comparison, a Hull C only needs 3 crew. The Crucible needs 4. The Carrack, Reclaimer and Redeemer need 5. The Star and StarG need 7. Surprising that the tanker needs about as many people as a Corvette!

I was scanning the boards some weeks ago, counting the numbers of folks interested in privateering, and I came up with more than 30 names. That doesn't include those who have an interest, but never mentioned it. Out of 30 people, we might get 10 or 12 in the same time zone. We would probably not get the 15 or so needed for an Idris.

I am not saying I'm sold on the Polaris, but I adore the play available to that kind of ship. I am still leaning toward building a strike wing of Vanguard, but the possibilities with the Polaris have me excited enough to pee myself. Let it please have big turrets.

 

[Speedkills]

You can only buy back a ship with store credits one time every 3 months. (unless you are a concierge???)

I'm not a Concierge, which I believe is $1000 in purchases from CIG directly. I would imagine someone who has $750 to melt probably has the level and then some. If I'm not mistaken, you can buy back using cash at any time, but you're probably right - one every three months on store credit. Please correct if I got this wrong, as my Melt Game is weak.

 

[marcsand2]

If I had $750 in ships, I would melt them all, buy the Polaris, melt that and then buy back what I had. This way I always have the option of getting a vette with LTI.

Ow, I just found another restriction, buy back only works with items that are not:
- limited
- a special discount offer
- contain physical items
The Polaris is limited. That means you only can buy it back when it is in sale again. I'm also still learning ;)