Coronavirus COVID-19 Thread

stockish

Rear Admiral
Nov 24, 2018
408
1,201
300
RSI Handle
Stockish
This also goes for any of those construction masks, or any filtration mask really, they only protect the wearer. Like you said they do not filter or reduce expelling of contagions a wearer of those types of masks have, even the military masks you see with giant filters on them do not filter outwards unless fitted so.
 

NaffNaffBobFace

Space Marshal
Donor
Jan 5, 2016
7,483
29,278
2,025
RSI Handle
NaffNaffBobFace
This also goes for any of those construction masks, or any filtration mask really, they only protect the wearer. Like you said they do not filter or reduce expelling of contagions a wearer of those types of masks have, even the military masks you see with giant filters on them do not filter outwards unless fitted so.
Seems like a distinction the population of planet earth really should be made aware of considering the intention is for the masks to reduce transmission by containing it in those who already have it 😅
 

NaffNaffBobFace

Space Marshal
Donor
Jan 5, 2016
7,483
29,278
2,025
RSI Handle
NaffNaffBobFace
COVID Catharsis Corner - Reports from around the world from today Sunday 26th of July:

- World: Cases pass 16 million. We hit 15 million on Wednesday meaning it's taken 4/5 days to climb another million cases.

- US: Texas - The only Hospital in Starr County sets up a "Death Panel" to choose who is viable and can be admitted for treatment and who isn't and is to be sent home to die as cases continue to surge

- UK: following findings that obesity drastically cuts survival rates in COVID patients, Government launches new Cycling initiative to get the populations shedding weight, promising infrastructure will improve. That's good, you'll be hard pressed to find many rural areas which have paved surfaces between towns that don't have 60mph traffic on them, so I'll look forward to seeing that.

- Germany: 500 workers on a large farm are quarantined as 174 seasonal workers test positive.

- UK: Rush to change quarantine rules on people coming in from Spain draws criticism with some holiday makers discovering only once their aircraft had touched down in the country, casting question marks on the security of their jobs when they get home. People effected include the Transport Secretary who is currently holidaying in the country.

- Costa Rica: Country records record rise in one-day reported cases at 931.
 

Aramsolari

Vice Admiral
Donor
May 9, 2019
901
3,085
500
RSI Handle
AramSolari
Observation on face masks:

Now they are mandatory in shops in the UK I have seen many people wearing the below dust-mask style of mask which have unfiltered valves which allow exhalation breaths to exist the mask unimpeded:

View attachment 18204
(Images stolen from the interwebz)

To my uneducated mind this is a crappy kind of mask: If worn the right way around it leaks virus being breathed out via the unfiltered valves. If worn inside-out to allows air in unbaffled you have less reduction of incoming particles so it's less effective in either use case.

Bearing in mind the official advice is all we need is two layers of thin cotton to serve as a face mask, this valved masks seem to be inadequate - there is a clear point of unimpeded exit.

Perhaps the fact they are specifically built masks rather than home-made DIY makes them more effective even with the valves? Doesn't seem like it, but that's down to the scientists to prove one way or another.
Ohh I actually have one of those. I bought it as a joke cause I wanted to look like Bane. Turns out they work alright. The 'valves' actually have filters in them as well.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Lorddarthvik

NaffNaffBobFace

Space Marshal
Donor
Jan 5, 2016
7,483
29,278
2,025
RSI Handle
NaffNaffBobFace
Ohh I actually have one of those. I bought it as a joke cause I wanted to look like Bane. Turns out they work alright. The 'valves' actually have filters in them as well.
Good to know your model does 🙂

The cartridge filter intake ones I had to rely upon in the food industry didn't, and I'm pretty sure the ones I've seen for sale online recently don't as the replaceable inserts supplied with them clearly have holes in intended for the valves.

It's pretty hard to tell if it does or doesn't without asking the person to take it off, too... Unless the government equips everyone with an official mask, we're left with whatever we can cobble together or source online be it suitable or not.

Still, something is better than nothing, it took far roo long to get to the point were we were encouraged to wear them in the first place. We'll see how this goes :like:
 
  • Like
Reactions: Aramsolari

Aramsolari

Vice Admiral
Donor
May 9, 2019
901
3,085
500
RSI Handle
AramSolari
Good to know your model does 🙂

The cartridge filter intake ones I had to rely upon in the food industry didn't, and I'm pretty sure the ones I've seen for sale online recently don't as the replaceable inserts supplied with them clearly have holes in intended for the valves.

It's pretty hard to tell if it does or doesn't without asking the person to take it off, too... Unless the government equips everyone with an official mask, we're left with whatever we can cobble together or source online be it suitable or not.

Still, something is better than nothing, it took far roo long to get to the point were we were encouraged to wear them in the first place. We'll see how this goes :like:
Yeah I just tested the mask. Air passes out of it, it doesn't get in. Air intake is through the mask part which has a filter.
 
  • Like
Reactions: NaffNaffBobFace

stockish

Rear Admiral
Nov 24, 2018
408
1,201
300
RSI Handle
Stockish
Just linking the headline of this article because wow....go journalism!

Arizona health officials report 1,813 new coronavirus cases, -1 new deaths

But at least it appears, for the moment, things are getting better. Instead of 10 kicks to the nuts, its only 9 now!
 
  • Like
Reactions: NaffNaffBobFace

NaffNaffBobFace

Space Marshal
Donor
Jan 5, 2016
7,483
29,278
2,025
RSI Handle
NaffNaffBobFace
Just linking the headline of this article because wow....go journalism!

Arizona health officials report 1,813 new coronavirus cases, -1 new deaths

But at least it appears, for the moment, things are getting better. Instead of 10 kicks to the nuts, its only 9 now!
451 not available in my country. I'm going to take it the minus one is the first case of reanimation and we are looking at the beginning of a zombie style issue.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Bambooza

NaffNaffBobFace

Space Marshal
Donor
Jan 5, 2016
7,483
29,278
2,025
RSI Handle
NaffNaffBobFace
COVID Catharsis Corner - Reports from around the world from today Monday 27th of July:

- UK: Becomes 9th country to pass 300,000 confirmed cases.

- World: Price of gold reaches record high of $1944.73 an ounce, officially more expensive per ounce than the popes piss.

- Spain: Catholic Church at risk of penalties from Catalonian government for holding rule breaching mass.

- US: National Security advisor becomes highest ranking official in administration to test positive for the contagion.

- UK: Pet cat the first case of human to animal transmission of COVID-19 in the country, having contracted the condition from its owner. Both have now recovered.

- Scotland: No new virus deaths for 11th day in a row, while 270 remain under hospital treatment.

- Germany: Intentions stated to test all travelers coming in from places considered to be high risk due to level and number of infections.

- China: Authorities plan to test all 6 million residents of north-eastern city of Dalian.

- US: Vaccine from a company called Moderna enters phase 3 clinical trials: large scale human testing on 30,000 volunteers.

- Belgium: Prime Minister warns if cases cannot be bought back under control a complete lockdown will have to be reintroduced.

- Indonesia: Passes 100,000 confirmed cases.
 

NaffNaffBobFace

Space Marshal
Donor
Jan 5, 2016
7,483
29,278
2,025
RSI Handle
NaffNaffBobFace
Before all this silliness I was supposed to head out to Bali with the lady friend for my birthday. Oh well.
I've seen plenty of childhood school friends on my social networks saying all their plans are off for the foreseeable.

I was already two steps ahead of them by not only not making any plans, but also by not having the means to do so in the first place. 😅
 

Aramsolari

Vice Admiral
Donor
May 9, 2019
901
3,085
500
RSI Handle
AramSolari
I've seen plenty of childhood school friends on my social networks saying all their plans are off for the foreseeable. I was already two steps ahead of them by not only not making any plans in the first place, but also by not having the means to. 😅
Yeah I was supposed to do a trip to Taiwan, Malaysia, and Indonesia. I have family in some of those countries. Bali was supposed to be strictly for leisure. :P
 
  • Like
Reactions: NaffNaffBobFace

NaffNaffBobFace

Space Marshal
Donor
Jan 5, 2016
7,483
29,278
2,025
RSI Handle
NaffNaffBobFace
COVID Catharsis Corner - Reports from around the world from today, Tuesday 28th of July:

- Europe: Several officials of several countries state their concern that the bloc is heading into the second wave as restrictions return across the region.

- US: $1 trillion COVID response funding proposal sets aside $53 million for cyber security.

- US: Trump Juniors Twitter account suspended/limited for spreading misleading pandemic information after sharing a hydroxychloroquine video which, despite the wealth of evidence and ongoing trials, is still being touted as a miracle cure/preventative.

- World: Global tourism hit to the tune of $320 billion.

- UK: Museum of London to host audio recordings of the same London streets from in 1928 and in Lockdown 2020, with the Lockdown ones being, apparently, far quieter.

- Pakistan: Protests erupt against short term lockdown closure of retail businesses.

- North Korea: City of Kaesong placed on total lockdown.

- World: World Health Organization indicates that COVID-19 will not be seasonal like the Flu, and we will see one big wave which we are still in the first sweep of, not one that comes in and out with winter and summer. Advises once again the pandemic is still accelerating, not waning.

- Scotland: Continues to see no further COVID deaths.

- Northern Ireland: No COVID deaths for 15th day in a row.
 

NaffNaffBobFace

Space Marshal
Donor
Jan 5, 2016
7,483
29,278
2,025
RSI Handle
NaffNaffBobFace
COVID Catharsis Corner - Reports from around the world from today Wednesday 29th of July:

- US: Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Nevada, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and Wisconsin in "Red Zone" for COVID outbreaks with each having over 100 new cases per 100,000 residents in the last week.

- US: Close to 1,300 deaths were reported in the 24 hours of Tuesday, the highest number since May.

- US: President trump suggests increase in COVID cases is due to recent protests, however rise is the same in places that have not had any protests as in places that have suggesting that although there may have been contributing factors, it is not the main cause.

- Europe: World Health Organization warns it may be selfish young bastards driving the surging case rates across several countries in the Euro zone.

- Sweden: Neighboring countries Denmark and Norway to lift travel restrictions on visitors from the country from July 30th.

- UK: City of Leeds deploys robot cleaners which identify areas which need disinfecting ans spray an alcohol mist over them to reduce the need for humans who may catch the virus to do it.

- Saudi Arabia: Hajj pilgrimage begins today, but scaled back and with restrictions such as banning international travelers.

- Hong Kong: Reports emerge Medical Services are beginning to be overwhelmed.

- China: 101 new cases reported, the highest number in over 3 months.

- New Zealand: New new cases detected in quarantined travelers, still no community transmission.

- Italy: State of emergency extended to October.

- Germany: Urgent track-and-trace operation underway as a couple return from Manchester UK with the virus. Fifty people are in quarantine with 13 testing positive so far.
 

Jolly_Green_Giant

Space Marshal
Donor
Jun 25, 2016
897
3,140
1,650
RSI Handle
Jolly_Green_Giant
I have some scattered thoughts I want to put down in front of me, based mostly on intuition.

A virus is a virus is a virus. A microorganism with, simply speaking, the ability to transfer through the air from person to person, and quickly. I know its just a game, but pandemic is a really straight forward and simple way to present the concept of how a virus spreads. We knew once a few people had it in china and they said they were having a hard time containing it that it just wouldnt be stopped.




Masks help. Washing your hands helps. Staying away from each other helps. By how much has yet to be determined.

Nursing homes have high infectivity rates. Why? Poor hygiene, compromised immune systems, ignorant staff, releasing the elderly from the hospital to go back to the nursing homes. (I wonder if depression has caused a spike in deaths in the nursing homes. Lots of old people go downhill quick when they dont have their loved ones coming to visit them.)

It seems households would be the biggest place of transmission, everyone intimately close to each other every day, stuck inside, bringing home whatever they picked up while they were out.

If you are an 84 year old finnish lady who goes to the busiest places in the area every day, you're probably completely immune (based on my own observations lol)

I still don't trust the data. Not that I'm saying its fake, I just have to question the collection method and the chain of custody, which from the beginning has been fucked. No one was prepared for this and theres incentive to fudge the numbers for financial reasons (maybe political? but then were talking malice, and I don't think that's the case, just incompetence.) If I remember correctly, new rules for data collection were imposed retroactively in some places, which makes me question the accuracy of the data even more. If I were in charge of anything, perfect data collection and analysis would be at the top of my list.

I'm not sure if the protests are really contributing to the rise in cases like some are saying. I mean at face value it would make perfect sense seeing you have a lot of people in close proximity. However, being outside, wearing masks and being young all seem to be a factor as well. I'm still convinced its not a good idea to stay in the house day after day, mainly for people who dont wash their hands, or they hug and kiss their loved ones a lot. Im not certain of the exact circumstances, but I believe house arrest is a problem. Im not saying they should all go to the store or restaurants, just that people need to spend more time outside and away from each other. Get some fresh air, try to maintain your sanity, etc...

UNEMPLOYMENT - Holy S*** , gee golly gosh Batman. I think were in for a slow economic collapse. A slow boil into global turmoil. Im looking 20 years down the road. Sooner if we get into a war, which has never been more likely IMO.


Speaking of war:

Supposedly only 6% of China's population is under CCP control? I just heard that during this testimony from Sec State Pompeo over the State Dept budget. They have no interest in disengaging with the Chinese people, and I don't think anyone would want that. We have no quarrel with the Chinese people, just the CCP and their efforts to become the worlds hegemon. We made it clear not long ago that we recognize none of their territorial claims in the South China sea, and thats where the tension comes from. I guess I have to include the threat to Taiwan and the current assimilation of Hong Kong back into complete Chinese rule. Just keep an eye on this.


If you want more news, just typing in "china" to google search and clicking on the news tab will give you several significant news articles on a broad range of topics.


Food banks. Just type that into twitter search to see local reports about food banks across the country.

TBH I would highly suggest paying attention to everything you can gather from congressional hearings, Testimony, the actions of this government and the language of policy.

That's all for now.
 
Forgot your password?